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tomahawk

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Should I Restart My Own Testosterone Production?
« on: March 29, 2015, 07:29:43 am »
Guys, I went from Reandron 1000 to Testosterone Cypionate because I got bloods done after 8 weeks on Reandron and my T had gone right back down to 9.8 and E2 was 181, which was triple my baseline of 60.
I wanted to try a shorter chain ester, doing smaller amounts, more often to stop the rollercoaster (weeks 8-12 on Reandron are hell).

About 3 weeks ago when I was taught to self-inject Test Cyp, we agreed on 50mg per week SubQ.
After that first injection, I didn't sleep for 2 nights and barely got to sleep on the 3rd and for the first time I got blood pressure related headaches as my blood pressure spiked 10-15 points - it was already around 140/90, and in bed at night I took a reading of 162/95!
So, I decided to split my injection to 25mg twice a week. My blood pressure still has not come down, so I am wanting to stop TRT.

My doctor gave me the option to go back on Reandron and come in every 6 weeks for a shot, instead of 12.
I am a hypermetaboliser/hyperexcreter and have low SHBG, it was 12, now 16.
I worry about the waves of E2 that flood over me. I had gyno before starting TRT.

I would like to commit 3 months to No Testosterone at all and to get super serious on Exercise and Diet.
Losing 15-20kg would be great!

other stuff in the mix:
Adrenal Fatigue, Metabolic Syndrome, weight: 100kg, height 6'1" BMI 29, So Overweight, E.D. - I think the last time I had morning wood 10-15 years ago!
I also noticed how Exogenous T has put excess load on my veins.
I have varicose veins in my foot since starting T and I got a duplex ultrasound and I have 2 incompetent perforators in my right leg.

How long does it take to restart cold turkey?
Do you recommend with HCG or Clomid to kickstart? what protocols are there?

I am still tempted to do an HCG stimulation test, because 2 doctors have said I am primary, I just wonder how primary... but I am scared a bit because a lot of reading I've done says that HCG is quite Estrogenic!
I'm already Estrogen dominant!!

2 other questions:
-can someone post an HCG stimulation test protocol?
-when doing an HCG stimulation test, do you take an AI?
« Last Edit: March 29, 2015, 07:48:05 am by PeakT »
37 Years old
super low SHBG, fatty liver, tracking to diabetes, high BP, adrenal fatigue
bio-identical cream
-hassle to do daily
Reandron 1000 (one shot every 3 months)
-mellow effects, all gone after 8 weeks, T down to 8, E to 181
Testosterone Cypionate
-25mg E3.5D, high blood pressure, headaches, insomnia
Came off Test Cyp.
Consider cold turkey..
A week later feel like crap, anxiety, poor sleep, waking up at 4am, fatigue 
10th April 2015 - back on Reandron 1000!
6 week injection protocol due to hypermetabolising

Arimidex 1mg twice a week (Mon and Thurs)
Myomin 2 pills with brekky, 2 pills with lunch, daily

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Re: Restart my own production
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2015, 07:43:31 am »
A few comments:

--Get that HCG stim test to see if you are primary, especially if your docs think you are.  There is no point in trying to restart if you are primary of course.

--Here is some info on restarting:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_restart

--Also, I think I've mentioned this, but losing that much weight may restart your production (if you are not primary).
« Last Edit: March 29, 2015, 07:50:55 am by PeakT »
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Restart my own production
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2015, 07:43:31 am »


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Re: Should I Restart My Own Testosterone Production?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2015, 08:13:43 am »
Thanks! I would love to know the protocol for the HCG stimulation test
Can ypu advise a good diet book to reverse diabetes, heal endothelium, prevent atherosclerosis etc
I gotta eat really good... And lose weight
37 Years old
super low SHBG, fatty liver, tracking to diabetes, high BP, adrenal fatigue
bio-identical cream
-hassle to do daily
Reandron 1000 (one shot every 3 months)
-mellow effects, all gone after 8 weeks, T down to 8, E to 181
Testosterone Cypionate
-25mg E3.5D, high blood pressure, headaches, insomnia
Came off Test Cyp.
Consider cold turkey..
A week later feel like crap, anxiety, poor sleep, waking up at 4am, fatigue 
10th April 2015 - back on Reandron 1000!
6 week injection protocol due to hypermetabolising

Arimidex 1mg twice a week (Mon and Thurs)
Myomin 2 pills with brekky, 2 pills with lunch, daily

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Re: Should I Restart My Own Testosterone Production?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2015, 06:32:53 pm »
Thanks! I would love to know the protocol for the HCG stimulation test
Can ypu advise a good diet book to reverse diabetes, heal endothelium, prevent atherosclerosis etc
I gotta eat really good... And lose weight

Davie talked about the stim test here with Dr. Shippen:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=6910.0

Can you ask the diet, reverse diabetes, heal endothelium q on the Erectile/Heart board?  Thx...
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2015, 06:32:53 pm »


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Re: Should I Restart My Own Testosterone Production?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2015, 06:37:03 pm »
That link is pointing back to this post...
37 Years old
super low SHBG, fatty liver, tracking to diabetes, high BP, adrenal fatigue
bio-identical cream
-hassle to do daily
Reandron 1000 (one shot every 3 months)
-mellow effects, all gone after 8 weeks, T down to 8, E to 181
Testosterone Cypionate
-25mg E3.5D, high blood pressure, headaches, insomnia
Came off Test Cyp.
Consider cold turkey..
A week later feel like crap, anxiety, poor sleep, waking up at 4am, fatigue 
10th April 2015 - back on Reandron 1000!
6 week injection protocol due to hypermetabolising

Arimidex 1mg twice a week (Mon and Thurs)
Myomin 2 pills with brekky, 2 pills with lunch, daily

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Re: Should I Restart My Own Testosterone Production?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2015, 08:48:37 pm »
That link is pointing back to this post...

Pretty helpful, eh?  Let's try again:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2233.0
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
And check out my New Peak Testosterone Program: http://www.peaktestosterone.com/peak_testosterone_program
If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Should I Restart My Own Testosterone Production?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2015, 08:48:37 pm »