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well, I am about 5 days at lower dose. BP is now back to  almost my old normal of about 110/60. I usually am about 5 points below that, no big deal. I have lost about 3 pounds on average. I have noticed that about 2-3 days after each injection I put on a pound or 2, temporarily. Sleep is improving slowly.

However, my endurance is slowly improving again. I was always an endurance type person. Since starting HRT, that has been trashed. The improvement although slight, is the best I have been, hoping it continues. I think all the water retention and elevated BP killed my endurance.
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Re: Lowering My Testosterone Dose Dropped My High Blood Pressure!
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 05:19:44 pm »
well, I am about 5 days at lower dose. BP is now back to  almost my old normal of about 110/60. I usually am about 5 points below that, no big deal. I have lost about 3 pounds on average. I have noticed that about 2-3 days after each injection I put on a pound or 2, temporarily. Sleep is improving slowly.

However, my endurance is slowly improving again. I was always an endurance type person. Since starting HRT, that has been trashed. The improvement although slight, is the best I have been, hoping it continues. I think all the water retention and elevated BP killed my endurance.

So are the improvements in blood pressure just from this protocol change or some of the other changes you have made?
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Re: Lowering My Testosterone Dose Dropped My High Blood Pressure!
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 06:11:28 pm »
that was the only change and I just slept 7 hours  :D. Darn  estrogen!! Happily at 100 mg a week, at least for now!!

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Re: Lowering My Testosterone Dose Dropped My High Blood Pressure!
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 08:33:43 pm »
I did drink some alcohol  for several days before the test.

What I have read a number of times is that alcohol is initially sedating and will help you fall asleep.  However, in a few hours, it is stimulatory and so your sleep is not as deep and restful.
I think that's called dopamaine rebound the alcholol burns off all the dopamaine and the brain goes into overdrive to reproduce it

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Re: Lowering My Testosterone Dose Dropped My High Blood Pressure!
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2015, 10:04:36 pm »
that was the only change and I just slept 7 hours  :D. Darn  estrogen!! Happily at 100 mg a week, at least for now!!

Same thing happened to me.  I am at 70mg a week, with 100IU HCG daily.   my BP is down from 140/90 back to 125/75ish.  Sleep is better, no more head in the clouds... I was going to try a restart but honestly dont know if I even want to....

Also, orgasm sensation has returned, as well as penile sensation.  Not sure what caused it all to change, but I am sticking here for a while.  Only change I could see myself making would be possibly going 10mg higher a week, if my blood draw shows me too low on E2.

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Re: Lowering My Testosterone Dose Dropped My High Blood Pressure!
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2015, 03:19:08 am »
I split this out, because it shows the consequence of going too high with your testosterone:  it can lead to hypertension and I think that in some men it probably lowers HDL as well.
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Re: Lowering My Testosterone Dose Dropped My High Blood Pressure!
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2015, 03:23:34 am »
My theory (not surprising) is that in myself at least testosterone likely lowered my cortisol, leading to an increase in ACTH and therefore epinephrine and norepinephrine, causing me when I injected my last 100 mg IM shot to not sleep at all that night and feel really good with lots of energy.  I haven't checked it lately, but I noticed that even with much lower dose subcutaneous shots that I could have an increase in blood pressure for about 12 hours after my injection.

If true, then lowering testosterone should result in higher cortisol, which means less of an ACTH burst while levels are peaking, therefore less epinephrine and norepinephrine, and therefore less of a spike in blood pressure. 

That's the cortisol theory.  The other, and probably more common, is high blood pressure from water retention which is moderated by estradiol.  The big question is whether estradiol messes with cortisol as well, or just messes with the renin-aldosterone system.
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Re: Lowering My Testosterone Dose Dropped My High Blood Pressure!
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2015, 03:38:06 am »

That's the cortisol theory.  The other, and probably more common, is high blood pressure from water retention which is moderated by estradiol.  The big question is whether estradiol messes with cortisol as well, or just messes with the renin-aldosterone system.

Yet another study I'd like to see!
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