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Intelligence Explosion - We Cannot Compete
« on: April 19, 2015, 03:46:48 am »
It is interesting, because some geneticists have speculated that we may be able to boost human intelligence to levels of 1000+.  This seems impressive, but many big names out there are much more worried about an "intelligence explosion."  I've posted about these type of things before, so no worries if this isn't a topic of interest.

Basically, this concern was first postulated by I.J. Good from what I can tell:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._J._Good

I don't remember who he was from the movie (Imitiation Game), but I guess he became very concerned with this concept:

"Let an ultraintelligent machine be defined as a machine that can far surpass all the intellectual activities of any man however clever. Since the design of machines is one of these intellectual activities, an ultraintelligent machine could design even better machines; there would then unquestionably be an 'intelligence explosion,' and the intelligence of man would be left far behind. Thus the first ultraintelligent machine is the last invention that man need ever make.[10]"

Basically, the idea is that a machine could easily "go viral" in their abilitiy to increase intelligence leaving even a 1,000 IQ human far behind...
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Re: Intelligence Explosion - We Cannot Compete
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2015, 01:29:24 pm »
Yep.   See Nick Bostrom's recent work.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2015, 06:00:46 pm »
Yep.   See Nick Bostrom's recent work.

Interesting:

http://www.nickbostrom.com/views/superintelligence.pdf

"Intelligence is a big deal. Humanity owes its dominant position on Earth not to any
special strength of our muscles, nor any unusual sharpness of our teeth, but to the
unique ingenuity of our brains
. It is our brains that are responsible for the complex social
organization and the accumulation of technical, economic, and scientific advances that,
for better and worse, undergird modern civilization."
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2015, 06:02:49 pm »
Slate discusses how future AI intelligence likely be completely different and thus could be potentially dangerous in suprising ways:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/09/will_artificial_intelligence_turn_on_us_robots_are_nothing_like_humans_and.html
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2015, 10:16:27 am »
I can't remember if I've mentioned MIRI to you or not but their efforts on this are important.   

There's also an extensive interview of Bostrom of the a Partially Examined Life podcast ....  I confess I have not listened to it yet so I should not bring it up, but they usually go into some pretty good depth, not just the sound bites. 
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2015, 11:04:12 pm »
I can't remember if I've mentioned MIRI to you or not but their efforts on this are important.   

There's also an extensive interview of Bostrom of the a Partially Examined Life podcast ....  I confess I have not listened to it yet so I should not bring it up, but they usually go into some pretty good depth, not just the sound bites.

For those int'd:

http://www.partiallyexaminedlife.com/2015/01/06/ep108-nick-bostrom/  (He joins at 9:20.)

And here:

http://www.amazon.com/Superintelligence-Dangers-Strategies-Nick-Bostrom/dp/0199678111/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429571074&sr=8-1&keywords=nick+bostrom

http://www.amazon.com/Global-Catastrophic-Risks-Nick-Bostrom/dp/0199606501/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1429571074&sr=8-3&keywords=nick+bostrom
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Re: Intelligence Explosion - We Cannot Compete
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2015, 11:52:44 pm »
http://lukemuehlhauser.com/

Interview with Bill Gates:

"Gates: I don’t think so. I mean he actually put some money out to help get somewhere going on this, and I think that’s absolutely fantastic. For people in the audience who want to read about this, I highly recommend this Bostrom book called Superintelligence…

We have a general purpose learning algorithm that evolution has endowed us with, and it’s running in an extremely slow computer. Very limited memory size, ability to send data to other computers, we have to use this funny mouth thing here… Whenever we build a new one it starts over and it doesn’t know how to walk. So believe me, as soon as this algorithm [points to head], taking experience and turning it into knowledge, which is so amazing and which we have not done in software, as soon as you do that, it’s not clear you’ll even know when you’re just at the human level. You’ll be at the superhuman level almost as soon as that algorithm is implanted, in silicon. And actually as time goes by that silicon piece is ready to be implanted, the amount of knowledge, as soon as it has that learning algorithm it just goes out on the internet and reads all the magazine and books… we have essentially been building the content based for the super intelligence.

So I try not to get too exercised about this but when people say it’s not a problem, then I really start to [shakes head] get to a point of disagreement. How can they not see what a huge challenge this is?"
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