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High 24 Hour Urine Cortisol Test - How Can I Lower It?
« on: June 01, 2015, 02:14:37 pm »
My results are 65!! Range is 0-50 according to the life extension email I received.  What are my options to lower cortisol.  Quitting coffee, even decaf, and am currently taking seriphos!  What types of drs deal with this issue? Thanks guys!!
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Re: High 24 Hour Urine Cortisol Test - How Can I Lower It?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2015, 03:15:19 pm »
My results are 65!! Range is 0-50 according to the life extension email I received.  What are my options toower cortisol.  Quitting coffee, even decaf, and am currently taking seriphos!  What types of drs deal with this issue? Thanks guys!!

I would still do a 3 point cortisol and see when you are high. 

As far as supplements, phosphatidylserine is supposed to lower cortisol.  To be honest, there isn't a lot of research supporting this using soy-based PS, but some of the online docs have used it for this supposedly successfully.  You have to take quite a bit and it is expensive.  (I believe even the bovine form just helped with "cortisol reactivity.")

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Re: High 24 Hour Urine Cortisol Test - How Can I Lower It?
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Re: High 24 Hour Urine Cortisol Test - How Can I Lower It?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2015, 03:42:20 pm »
You have to look at any underlying reasons why cortisol is high.  There are three main reasons: physiological, psychological, and chemical stress.  The first could mean an infection, dealing with inflammation (e.g., from allergies), the second from anxiety and stuff, and the third from things you're putting in your body (which would probably cause inflammation). 

And I can almost guarantee that if your cortisol was this high when you ran your T numbers to reveal a diagnosis of hypogonadism that high cortisol is the reason for your low T.  Sapolsky says that the very moment a cut is made by a surgeon for an operation is when testosterone goes way down; i.e., you're dealing with physiological stress. 
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Re: High 24 Hour Urine Cortisol Test - How Can I Lower It?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2015, 03:53:36 pm »
My results are 65!! Range is 0-50 according to the life extension email I received.  What are my options toower cortisol.  Quitting coffee, even decaf, and am currently taking seriphos!  What types of drs deal with this issue? Thanks guys!!

I would still do a 3 point cortisol and see when you are high. 

As far as supplements, phosphatidylserine is supposed to lower cortisol.  To be honest, there isn't a lot of research supporting this using soy-based PS, but some of the online docs have used it for this supposedly successfully.  You have to take quite a bit and it is expensive.  (I believe even the bovine form just helped with "cortisol reactivity.")

I'll put something together for you as I have wanted to do this.  Gimme a bit...
Is the 3 point a saliva test?

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Re: High 24 Hour Urine Cortisol Test - How Can I Lower It?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2015, 05:52:30 pm »
My results are 65!! Range is 0-50 according to the life extension email I received.  What are my options toower cortisol.  Quitting coffee, even decaf, and am currently taking seriphos!  What types of drs deal with this issue? Thanks guys!!

I would still do a 3 point cortisol and see when you are high. 

As far as supplements, phosphatidylserine is supposed to lower cortisol.  To be honest, there isn't a lot of research supporting this using soy-based PS, but some of the online docs have used it for this supposedly successfully.  You have to take quite a bit and it is expensive.  (I believe even the bovine form just helped with "cortisol reactivity.")

I'll put something together for you as I have wanted to do this.  Gimme a bit...
Is the 3 point a saliva test?

I think most guys do this out of convenience.  However, you can get a two point blood draw at LEF.  So you could get morning and afternoon for example, which are I would argue the two most relevant data points.
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Re: High 24 Hour Urine Cortisol Test - How Can I Lower It?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2015, 08:02:27 pm »
I actually did the 2 point test a while back and my cortisol was like 24 (high) for both AM/PM. The problem with this test is the stress of having to go to the lab 2 times in a day.
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Re: High 24 Hour Urine Cortisol Test - How Can I Lower It?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2015, 11:13:59 pm »
Yep.  I don't know if ZRT has a 3 point blood spot cortisol test - never checked...
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Re: High 24 Hour Urine Cortisol Test - How Can I Lower It?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2015, 02:19:03 pm »
You have to look at any underlying reasons why cortisol is high.  There are three main reasons: physiological, psychological, and chemical stress.  The first could mean an infection, dealing with inflammation (e.g., from allergies), the second from anxiety and stuff, and the third from things you're putting in your body (which would probably cause inflammation). 

And I can almost guarantee that if your cortisol was this high when you ran your T numbers to reveal a diagnosis of hypogonadism that high cortisol is the reason for your low T.  Sapolsky says that the very moment a cut is made by a surgeon for an operation is when testosterone goes way down; i.e., you're dealing with physiological stress.
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2015, 02:19:03 pm »