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3 year hormone nightmare, please help...
« on: June 10, 2015, 12:53:47 pm »
Hello all:

I am new to the forum today and it has been a nightmare 3 years for me. I cant even begin to describe in detail how terrible things have been. After reading several posts, I am encouraged to see there are others struggling with these issues and I am looking to find some encouragement, hope and some information. I will try and summarize to keep this is brief as possible:

I have always been a fairly healthy person. Take my vitamins every day, exercise as much as possible. Don't smoke, don't drink. I had a tough time about 3 years ago with a divorce, job loss etc. I was coping by going to the gym and exercising. I noticed that I was getting weaker however even though I was increasing my time at the gym. I started feeling physically weak, shaking, sometimes dizzy and faint. Went to my doctor and he said probably just stress and to keep going to the gym/etc.

The weakness continued and I could not gain any ground at the gym. I started feeling tired and wasn't sleeping well. After several months of this, I went back to the doctor for a series of tests and a physical. My total T was 239ng/dl. He told me it was flagged as low but that I should just increase my work at the gym, which I did.

Over the course of the next couple years, I became more irritable, weak, and frustrated. I have had almost every blood test on the requisition. I have had multiple diagnostic imaging tests trying to determine the cause of my extensive list of symptoms: exhaustion, insomnia, weakness, shaky, brain fog, unable to think clearly, decreasing libido, less strong errections, loss of morning errections, pain in my joints, body aches, sweating, depression, severe anxiety, feeling cold, hair loss, and the list goes on and on. Several trips to the ER and I have seen 6 different doctors, including two internal medicine specialists, two psychiatrists who put me on various anti-depressants and benzodiazepines with disaterous results, and on and on.

Most notably, I saw an endocrinologist who did more detailed testing and told me that my physical exam was good, my testosterone was low but I was "too young" to be started on testosterone replacement. He said that it would shut down my natural testosterone production permanently and that I should just try to lower my stress.

My family doctor, two internal medicine specialists and a urologist have all told me that testosterone replacement is essentially "taboo" and that other things must be CAUSING my low testosterone. They also advised against replacement therapy.

I have done everything I can think of to try and get better. I have been off work for 6 months now, on disability and barely able to function some days. I truly feel that this is not merely depression or anxiety as everyone has been telling me. I know myself, and I know there is something dreadfully wrong with my body. I have increased my Vit D to 4000IU/d due to a low test back in December and I have done lots of things to decrease stress.

I finally went to a new family doctor and gave him my story. He told me that he would be willing to do a "trial" of testosterone as an "experiment" to see if it might help. He told me however that it was his opinion that I would probably not feel any better. He gave me 100mg testosterone cypionate IM injection, once per MONTH (that's right, per MONTH) for three months. He did not explain any of the potential risks with me (figures). After the first shot, I noticed a big improvement in how I felt for about 4-8 days, then mood swings, sweats, hot flashes, etc. The rest of the month was terrible. Same response on the next shot. I mentioned to the doctor that I had a positive response each time and he told me it was "all in my head" and that there was no way it would make me feel better that quickly. At this point, I'm starting to wonder if I'm going crazy.

After a lot of research on testosterone replacement, I realized this new doctor had no idea about dosing, testing, etc. I finally decided to pay out of pocket for a BHRT clinic. They did a large number of tests and during my consult indicated to me that my Free T was "virtually non-existent" and that my E2 was "somewhat high". Everything else (thyroid, adrenal, etc) they said were all fine (see my signature for results, I have not included ALL the tests, just the relevant ones). They are convinced that my symptoms are as a result of long term low T and higher E2. I am concerned that I may even have osteopenia or osteoporosis symptoms (bone pain, trouble walking, not healing, etc).

The BHRT clinic has told me that I should start 100mg/week of Testosterone Cypionate and 0.5mg/week of Arimidex asap. I have been told I will have to give myself an injection weekly for the rest of my life (yuck, but I have a daughter and wouldn't want to put her at risk with cream) and that I will likely not be able to have more children (I'm still not sure about that). I asked them about Clomid and HcG, but they said they don't use Clomid and HcG probably wouldn't work well enough for me.

I am scared and confused because I am very unwell and have a BHRT clinic doctor saying that he has a likely solution to this 3 year nightmare but with serious lifetime implications, but all my other mainstream doctors are advising against therapy. I need to get better soon, but I cannot afford to mess things up even worse.

Any thoughts from those with experience is greatly appreciated.
Age 48, 5'10" 185lbs, from Canada

Symptoms: Anxiety, abdominal bloating/cramps/tenderness, fatigue, weakness, insomnia.

Rx treatment:
10/21/2015: NOTHING
10/15/2015: 120mg Testosterone cream
9/11/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 10/5/2.5mg Cortef
8/1/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream
7/23/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 15mg Thyroid
6/30/2015: 100mg Testosterone Cypionate/week, 0.5mg Arimidex 2x/week

Recent Tests March 2016:
T 234 ng/dl (297-850)
E2 19 pg/ml (<54)
SHBG 0.23 (0.20-1.00)
DHEAS 11.8 umol/L (<14.0)
TSH 4.63 mU/L (0.2-4.0)
Free T3: 6.2 pmol/L (3.5-6.5)
Free T4: 16.2 pmol/L (9.0-23.0)
Cortisol AM 279 nmol/L (120-620)
Cortisol PM 166 nmol/L (85-460)

Previous Tests:
T (300-1100ng/dl): 579>507>182>300>369>234
E2 (<54pg/ml): 72>59>43>28>25>19

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Re: 3 year hormone nightmare, please help...
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2015, 01:03:01 pm »
Many symptoms of low T overlap with excess iron. Have you checked ferritin and transferrin saturation?
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2015, 01:22:06 pm »
Many symptoms of low T overlap with excess iron. Have you checked ferritin and transferrin saturation?

My Ferritin was 107 ug/L (12-300)
Age 48, 5'10" 185lbs, from Canada

Symptoms: Anxiety, abdominal bloating/cramps/tenderness, fatigue, weakness, insomnia.

Rx treatment:
10/21/2015: NOTHING
10/15/2015: 120mg Testosterone cream
9/11/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 10/5/2.5mg Cortef
8/1/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream
7/23/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 15mg Thyroid
6/30/2015: 100mg Testosterone Cypionate/week, 0.5mg Arimidex 2x/week

Recent Tests March 2016:
T 234 ng/dl (297-850)
E2 19 pg/ml (<54)
SHBG 0.23 (0.20-1.00)
DHEAS 11.8 umol/L (<14.0)
TSH 4.63 mU/L (0.2-4.0)
Free T3: 6.2 pmol/L (3.5-6.5)
Free T4: 16.2 pmol/L (9.0-23.0)
Cortisol AM 279 nmol/L (120-620)
Cortisol PM 166 nmol/L (85-460)

Previous Tests:
T (300-1100ng/dl): 579>507>182>300>369>234
E2 (<54pg/ml): 72>59>43>28>25>19

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Re: 3 year hormone nightmare, please help...
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2015, 01:36:48 pm »
Hey,

A few comments.  First of all, as a young guy, you want to do your due diligence and try to figure out your root cause.  If you can, please read thru these links:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Hdr_Testosterone.aspx

You'll see that I have a "program" that steps you looking through root causes, then mentions the pros and cons of HRT and then discusses ways to preserve fertility and boost T, etc.

Comment:  Your advice seems very narrow.  You really need to read more about it.  I know you feel like crap, but take the time to read through the links above - you'll see that this is what you are looking for.

Btw, I can relate to much of what you wrote.  I was very likely low T immediately after puberty and had many miserable years.  Low T can cause all of those symptoms you described just about.

Now one more thing.  There are other things that can cause low T-like symptoms, so it's possible you have more than one thing going on.  So start testing imo.
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Re: 3 year hormone nightmare, please help...
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2015, 01:45:30 pm »
You have terrible medical providers who have given you bad information and poor treatment.  Welcome to the club.

If you felt better with testosterone, even if just for a week or so, that's a hopeful sign, and you can build upon this.  What might have happened after this week upon taking your injection is that your estradiol went up too much -- especially relevant given that you said it's a little high without TRT -- which could have caused an exacerbation of your symptoms.  I would recommend finding a doc who can prescribe anastrozole while you go on weekly IM shots, or perhaps better twice weekly subcutaneous injections, which will bring down your estradiol. 

Because all this started with pretty severe stressors, I'd also recommend getting cortisol checked; high levels crush testosterone, and your symptoms of weakness and bone pain (which are symptoms of low estradiol assuming no other issues are causing this symptom) are fitting with high cortisol/glucocorticoid levels, or (even more significant) adrenal fatigue (low cortisol).  A 4x/day salivary cortisol reading is best.

And your docs are just unimaginably ignorant with your presentation of their comments regarding HCG and clomid.  There is simply no excuse for not starting you on either, either by themselves or with HCG in conjunction with testosterone, to preserve fertility. 

What a bunch of idiots. 
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March 2014: Dx low T (158ng/dl)
September 2015: Dx hypothyroidism, other adrenal hypofunction
2016: chronic fatigue, unspecified

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Re: 3 year hormone nightmare, please help...
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2015, 02:36:23 pm »
Horrific story and mine is similar!! I had life stopping anxiety for 1.5 -2 years back in 2011. Tried every anti-depressant and am still on clonazepam.   You are in the right place!! I am working with Defy Medical and am doing 30mg e3d IM.  I was on HCG but stopped it due to a possible cortisol issue. I am waiting to hear from Defy and have a consult soon.
     I would say to do 40-50mg Every 3 Days. They had me on 100 IU of HCG daily, which is their typical protocol and should preserve fertility! Best wishes, keep us posted!!

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2015, 02:44:44 pm »
I don't post on here much anymore but I'd like to say that you take the cake for the worst protocol I have ever seen.  Not only is 4 weeks FAR too long, he only gave you 100mg, which means your levels probably didn't even go that high to begin with.

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2015, 02:58:26 pm »
Thanks for the replies.

PeakT: I have read much of the info on the Peak Testosterone site, but I will certainly give it another look. One thing is that my Vit D was Low in Dec 2014, although not extremely low, and I have since started supplementing with 4000 IU/d starting in Feb 2015 (that's when I got the Vit D result). So I have only been supplementing Vit D for 4 months. Apparently it can take several months for serum Vit D to come up however, I will be asking about a repeat Vit D test from my doctor tomorrow. As I mentioned, I am generally very healthy and I don't do any of the bad stuff (smoking, drinking, etc). I was however on several different anti-depressants and benzodiazepines over the past year, I have stopped all those as of Feb 2015 so I am on nothing now. I understand these can adversely affect testosterone.

Kierkegaard: The BHRT doctor said the same thing, that my previous doctor who prescribed only the testosterone did not give me enough at the right frequency, and that estrogen may have spiked up. The BHRT doctor has prescribed me 100mg/week Testosterone cypionate AND Arimidex (anastrozole) 0.5mg/week. So he clearly wants to bring my estrogen down. I have not yet decided to proceed with treatment because Im hoping there might be an underlying cause. The issue of low T causing depression and anxiety or is it the other way around is a tough one. My psychiatrist told me that low T can cause depression and anxiety, but they do not believe the reverse is true. He says they have lots of patients with clinical depression and anxiety that have normal T levels. As I mentioned, I have had a lot of tests over the past year and I am always told "I have the bloodwork of an athlete", except my T. My Cortisol AM was checked and it was 259 nmol/L (120-620). They said it was good. The BHRT doctor did say I could use HcG, but it would need to be used with testosterone. He said the HcG alone would not be enough because my T is too low. Apparently Clomid is not used for men here in Canada??

euphorixx1: No kidding. I am getting the sense that most family doctors don't have a clue about this area. Even endocrinologists seem to be unware of some things. The BHRT doctor told me that they went for training in the US and learned things they were NEVER taught in medical school. It appears there is a major gap between hormone deficiency issues and mainstream medicine. Ugh..
Age 48, 5'10" 185lbs, from Canada

Symptoms: Anxiety, abdominal bloating/cramps/tenderness, fatigue, weakness, insomnia.

Rx treatment:
10/21/2015: NOTHING
10/15/2015: 120mg Testosterone cream
9/11/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 10/5/2.5mg Cortef
8/1/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream
7/23/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 15mg Thyroid
6/30/2015: 100mg Testosterone Cypionate/week, 0.5mg Arimidex 2x/week

Recent Tests March 2016:
T 234 ng/dl (297-850)
E2 19 pg/ml (<54)
SHBG 0.23 (0.20-1.00)
DHEAS 11.8 umol/L (<14.0)
TSH 4.63 mU/L (0.2-4.0)
Free T3: 6.2 pmol/L (3.5-6.5)
Free T4: 16.2 pmol/L (9.0-23.0)
Cortisol AM 279 nmol/L (120-620)
Cortisol PM 166 nmol/L (85-460)

Previous Tests:
T (300-1100ng/dl): 579>507>182>300>369>234
E2 (<54pg/ml): 72>59>43>28>25>19

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Re: 3 year hormone nightmare, please help...
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2015, 03:04:57 pm »
Thanks for the replies.

PeakT: I have read much of the info on the Peak Testosterone site, but I will certainly give it another look. One thing is that my Vit D was Low in Dec 2014, although not extremely low, and I have since started supplementing with 4000 IU/d starting in Feb 2015 (that's when I got the Vit D result). So I have only been supplementing Vit D for 4 months. Apparently it can take several months for serum Vit D to come up however, I will be asking about a repeat Vit D test from my doctor tomorrow. As I mentioned, I am generally very healthy and I don't do any of the bad stuff (smoking, drinking, etc). I was however on several different anti-depressants and benzodiazepines over the past year, I have stopped all those as of Feb 2015 so I am on nothing now. I understand these can adversely affect testosterone.

Kierkegaard: The BHRT doctor said the same thing, that my previous doctor who prescribed only the testosterone did not give me enough at the right frequency, and that estrogen may have spiked up. The BHRT doctor has prescribed me 100mg/week Testosterone cypionate AND Arimidex (anastrozole) 0.5mg/week. So he clearly wants to bring my estrogen down. I have not yet decided to proceed with treatment because Im hoping there might be an underlying cause. The issue of low T causing depression and anxiety or is it the other way around is a tough one. My psychiatrist told me that low T can cause depression and anxiety, but they do not believe the reverse is true. He says they have lots of patients with clinical depression and anxiety that have normal T levels. As I mentioned, I have had a lot of tests over the past year and I am always told "I have the bloodwork of an athlete", except my T. My Cortisol AM was checked and it was 259 nmol/L (120-620). They said it was good. The BHRT doctor did say I could use HcG, but it would need to be used with testosterone. He said the HcG alone would not be enough because my T is too low. Apparently Clomid is not used for men here in Canada??

euphorixx1: No kidding. I am getting the sense that most family doctors don't have a clue about this area. Even endocrinologists seem to be unware of some things. The BHRT doctor told me that they went for training in the US and learned things they were NEVER taught in medical school. It appears there is a major gap between hormone deficiency issues and mainstream medicine. Ugh..

Okay, well based on the above you are not overweight.  What about zinc?  How about doing a zinc taste test?  That can do really jack up testosterone in zinc deficient guys:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Zinc_Deficiency_Low_Testosterone.aspx

And have you pulled LH, FSH, prolactin?
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Re: 3 year hormone nightmare, please help...
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2015, 03:11:45 pm »
Okay, well based on the above you are not overweight.  What about zinc?  How about doing a zinc taste test?  That can do really jack up testosterone in zinc deficient guys:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Zinc_Deficiency_Low_Testosterone.aspx

And have you pulled LH, FSH, prolactin?

I am a little overweight (maybe 10-15 lbs) but that's about it. I have never been tested for Zinc, but I do take a multivitamin that has 11mg of Zinc per day. No idea what a zinc taste test is.

My LH and FSH are in my signature:
LH 4.5 U/L (<12.0)
FSH 5.9 U/L (<7.0)

I have never been tested for prolactin. What's that?
Age 48, 5'10" 185lbs, from Canada

Symptoms: Anxiety, abdominal bloating/cramps/tenderness, fatigue, weakness, insomnia.

Rx treatment:
10/21/2015: NOTHING
10/15/2015: 120mg Testosterone cream
9/11/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 10/5/2.5mg Cortef
8/1/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream
7/23/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 15mg Thyroid
6/30/2015: 100mg Testosterone Cypionate/week, 0.5mg Arimidex 2x/week

Recent Tests March 2016:
T 234 ng/dl (297-850)
E2 19 pg/ml (<54)
SHBG 0.23 (0.20-1.00)
DHEAS 11.8 umol/L (<14.0)
TSH 4.63 mU/L (0.2-4.0)
Free T3: 6.2 pmol/L (3.5-6.5)
Free T4: 16.2 pmol/L (9.0-23.0)
Cortisol AM 279 nmol/L (120-620)
Cortisol PM 166 nmol/L (85-460)

Previous Tests:
T (300-1100ng/dl): 579>507>182>300>369>234
E2 (<54pg/ml): 72>59>43>28>25>19

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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2015, 04:03:55 pm »
I'd agree with the psychiatrist honestly. These guys seem to be far better than terrible endos or GPs. The argument given by the endocrinologist is honestly idiotic--it shouldn't matter what came first.

That cortisol is on the low end too I think and you should look into "adrenal fatigue" Not surprising given all the stress you have.
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2015, 06:06:11 pm »
Thanks for the replies.

PeakT: I have read much of the info on the Peak Testosterone site, but I will certainly give it another look. One thing is that my Vit D was Low in Dec 2014, although not extremely low, and I have since started supplementing with 4000 IU/d starting in Feb 2015 (that's when I got the Vit D result). So I have only been supplementing Vit D for 4 months. Apparently it can take several months for serum Vit D to come up however, I will be asking about a repeat Vit D test from my doctor tomorrow. As I mentioned, I am generally very healthy and I don't do any of the bad stuff (smoking, drinking, etc). I was however on several different anti-depressants and benzodiazepines over the past year, I have stopped all those as of Feb 2015 so I am on nothing now. I understand these can adversely affect testosterone.

Any advice on how you came off of the antidepressants and especially the benzos? I am on .25 mg of clonazepam right now. Its a very small dose but just cutting back at all sucks!! Thanks!!

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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2015, 06:15:35 pm »
xrayguy, how was your cortisol measured?  Although just knowing morning cortisol is the best predictor of cortisol throughout the day, you still need a well-rounded picture to capture how your adrenals are doing, which is why a 4x/day salivary cortisol test is the gold standard for testing adrenals.  If you had cortisol measured by bloodwork, for example, you have the huge confound that people typically feel stressed when getting blood drawn or being in a doctor's office, leading to a false positive high score. 

As for finding the cause of low T, I can only commend you, especially given how much you're struggling.  Here in the states we have something called "wellness testing", which tests an incredible number of variables (I got around 70 pulled according to my phlebotomist, and will be following up with the results on two different doctor's meetings in the next few weeks), and looks at mineral, hormone, vitamin, and other deficiencies.  And low T can most definitely cause depression and anxiety.  At some point, though, you have to focus on what makes you feel better.
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March 2014: Dx low T (158ng/dl)
September 2015: Dx hypothyroidism, other adrenal hypofunction
2016: chronic fatigue, unspecified

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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2015, 08:36:56 pm »
xrayguy, how was your cortisol measured?  Although just knowing morning cortisol is the best predictor of cortisol throughout the day, you still need a well-rounded picture to capture how your adrenals are doing, which is why a 4x/day salivary cortisol test is the gold standard for testing adrenals.  If you had cortisol measured by bloodwork, for example, you have the huge confound that people typically feel stressed when getting blood drawn or being in a doctor's office, leading to a false positive high score. 

As for finding the cause of low T, I can only commend you, especially given how much you're struggling.  Here in the states we have something called "wellness testing", which tests an incredible number of variables (I got around 70 pulled according to my phlebotomist, and will be following up with the results on two different doctor's meetings in the next few weeks), and looks at mineral, hormone, vitamin, and other deficiencies.  And low T can most definitely cause depression and anxiety.  At some point, though, you have to focus on what makes you feel better.

The false positive high score though isn't necessarily false cause it would show that your HPA axis is responsive to stress right? I think I read this on definitivemind somewhere
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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2015, 09:40:02 pm »
Any advice on how you came off of the antidepressants and especially the benzos? I am on .25 mg of clonazepam right now. Its a very small dose but just cutting back at all sucks!! Thanks!!

Getting off benzodiazepines is extremely difficult. Benzos regulate GABA in your brain and it takes very little time to be come dependent on them. It can take a long time (months or even years) for your GABA production to get back to normal once you stop. Benzos have been said to be 10x more addicting that heroin and there are doctors that specialize in Benzo addiction. Symptoms of Benzo withdrawal can range from annoying to severely disabling. My withdrawal was VERY uncomfortable, but it can be done, I am living proof. Please visit the following site for info:

http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/
Age 48, 5'10" 185lbs, from Canada

Symptoms: Anxiety, abdominal bloating/cramps/tenderness, fatigue, weakness, insomnia.

Rx treatment:
10/21/2015: NOTHING
10/15/2015: 120mg Testosterone cream
9/11/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 10/5/2.5mg Cortef
8/1/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream
7/23/2015: 100mg Testosterone cream, 15mg Thyroid
6/30/2015: 100mg Testosterone Cypionate/week, 0.5mg Arimidex 2x/week

Recent Tests March 2016:
T 234 ng/dl (297-850)
E2 19 pg/ml (<54)
SHBG 0.23 (0.20-1.00)
DHEAS 11.8 umol/L (<14.0)
TSH 4.63 mU/L (0.2-4.0)
Free T3: 6.2 pmol/L (3.5-6.5)
Free T4: 16.2 pmol/L (9.0-23.0)
Cortisol AM 279 nmol/L (120-620)
Cortisol PM 166 nmol/L (85-460)

Previous Tests:
T (300-1100ng/dl): 579>507>182>300>369>234
E2 (<54pg/ml): 72>59>43>28>25>19

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