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factor5a

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I'm thinking about raising my dose from 300 two times weekly to 500 units. With my 70 mgs of Testosterone.

What is the highest HGC dose you have seen ,in conjuction with testosterone?

Thanks
« Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 09:39:18 pm by PeakT »
54 years

HRT  protocol

62 mgs of Sustenon weekly one IM shot
600 IU HGC  weekly divided in two SQ shots
6 click of  HGH daily
1 ml of Progesteron cream daily
Half pill of Arimidex once a week

Last lab tests

Progesterone,
1.50 ng/mL                                       0.21 - 1.54

Estradiol,
26 pg/mL                                              5 - 66

Testosterone Total

* 989.5 ng/dL                               142.0 - 923.0    ;D

Testosterone Libre (free)

 * 31.0 ng/dL                                     4.0 - 30.0      ;D

Testosterone Biodisponible

* 645.0 ng/dL                                        98.0 - 590.0

Sex Hormone Binding Globulin

 23.4 nmol/L                                              11.2 - 78.1

Alb˙min

 3.8 g/dL                                                  3.0 - 5.0

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 09:28:43 pm »
I'm thinking about raising my dose from 300 two times weekly to 500 units. With my 70 mgs of Testosterone.

What is the highest HGC dose you have seen ,in conjuction with testosterone?

Thanks

500 twice a week is pretty common in conjunction with HRT.
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 09:28:43 pm »


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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 09:35:41 pm »
I'm thinking about raising my dose from 300 two times weekly to 500 units. With my 70 mgs of Testosterone.

What is the highest HGC dose you have seen ,in conjuction with testosterone?

Thanks

500 twice a week is pretty common in conjunction with HRT.

I don't know where I heard about that dose,but I'm going to try it to see how it works and will post my results.

« Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 09:39:43 pm by PeakT »
54 years

HRT  protocol

62 mgs of Sustenon weekly one IM shot
600 IU HGC  weekly divided in two SQ shots
6 click of  HGH daily
1 ml of Progesteron cream daily
Half pill of Arimidex once a week

Last lab tests

Progesterone,
1.50 ng/mL                                       0.21 - 1.54

Estradiol,
26 pg/mL                                              5 - 66

Testosterone Total

* 989.5 ng/dL                               142.0 - 923.0    ;D

Testosterone Libre (free)

 * 31.0 ng/dL                                     4.0 - 30.0      ;D

Testosterone Biodisponible

* 645.0 ng/dL                                        98.0 - 590.0

Sex Hormone Binding Globulin

 23.4 nmol/L                                              11.2 - 78.1

Alb˙min

 3.8 g/dL                                                  3.0 - 5.0

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 09:41:06 pm »

I don't know where I heard about that dose,but I'm going to try it to see how it works and will post my results.

Some guys do not get much effect from 250 IU.  I did just fine as far as volumization with 250, but not everyone does. 
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 10:00:27 pm »
Some guys do not get much effect from 250 IU.  I did just fine as far as volumization with 250, but not everyone does.

What about the other end of the spectrum? What's the minimum where somebody's getting useful results?
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 10:39:57 pm »
Some guys do not get much effect from 250 IU.  I did just fine as far as volumization with 250, but not everyone does.

What about the other end of the spectrum? What's the minimum where somebody's getting useful results?

I don't think that less than 500 weekly will do something,but everybody is different
54 years

HRT  protocol

62 mgs of Sustenon weekly one IM shot
600 IU HGC  weekly divided in two SQ shots
6 click of  HGH daily
1 ml of Progesteron cream daily
Half pill of Arimidex once a week

Last lab tests

Progesterone,
1.50 ng/mL                                       0.21 - 1.54

Estradiol,
26 pg/mL                                              5 - 66

Testosterone Total

* 989.5 ng/dL                               142.0 - 923.0    ;D

Testosterone Libre (free)

 * 31.0 ng/dL                                     4.0 - 30.0      ;D

Testosterone Biodisponible

* 645.0 ng/dL                                        98.0 - 590.0

Sex Hormone Binding Globulin

 23.4 nmol/L                                              11.2 - 78.1

Alb˙min

 3.8 g/dL                                                  3.0 - 5.0

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 10:55:04 pm »
It's a little difficult to determine the right dose for you, but try not to take in more than 500 in one shot.  You could do twice a week or 3x weekly, just not more than 500 per shot.
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2015, 02:49:56 am »

What about the other end of the spectrum? What's the minimum where somebody's getting useful results?

I've never heard of anyone doing less than 250 IU twice per week but who knows?
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2015, 03:39:50 am »
I'm doing 1,500 IUs of HCG twice a week plus 50mg of testosterone once a week. This regimen seems to work okay for me.
Age: 24
Height: 5'9
Pre TRT Weight: 148 lbs.- March 01
Weight: 165 lbs- May 11
Current Weight: 170 lbs- June 20

Pre TRT Labs- February 2015
LH: 4.1 mIU/mL (range 1.5 - 9.3)
FSH: 5.8 mIU/mL (range 1.4 -18.1)
Prolactin: 12 ng/mL (range 2.1- 17.7)
Total T3: 113 ng/dL (range 55-172)
SHBG: 26 nmol/L (range 10-57)
Total Testosterone: 337 ng/dL (range 280-854)
Free Testosterone: 99.5 pg/mL (range 47- 244)
Estradiol: 18 pg/mL (range 3-70)

1 Month TRT Labs- April 2015
LH: <0.3 mIU/mL (range 1.5 - 9.3) Low
FSH: <0.1 mIU/mL (range 1.4 -18.1) Low
Total Testosterone: 569 ng/dL (range 280-854)
Estradiol: 58 pg/mL (range 3-70)

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2015, 03:23:42 pm »
Dr. Larry Lipshultz, last I checked, was still recommending 500IU 3x per week along with testosterone.  That's the highest I've seen from any doctor specializing in HRT, but that is certainly higher than most would recommend.

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2015, 05:07:18 pm »
Dr. Larry Lipshultz, last I checked, was still recommending 500IU 3x per week along with testosterone.  That's the highest I've seen from any doctor specializing in HRT, but that is certainly higher than most would recommend.


But it also depends on the Test dose,right ,Hydranted?  In my opinion it is not the same to have ,let's say 70 mgs of test weekly than 100 mgs in this last one , maybe 1500 iu weekly could be a lot or I'm wrong ?
54 years

HRT  protocol

62 mgs of Sustenon weekly one IM shot
600 IU HGC  weekly divided in two SQ shots
6 click of  HGH daily
1 ml of Progesteron cream daily
Half pill of Arimidex once a week

Last lab tests

Progesterone,
1.50 ng/mL                                       0.21 - 1.54

Estradiol,
26 pg/mL                                              5 - 66

Testosterone Total

* 989.5 ng/dL                               142.0 - 923.0    ;D

Testosterone Libre (free)

 * 31.0 ng/dL                                     4.0 - 30.0      ;D

Testosterone Biodisponible

* 645.0 ng/dL                                        98.0 - 590.0

Sex Hormone Binding Globulin

 23.4 nmol/L                                              11.2 - 78.1

Alb˙min

 3.8 g/dL                                                  3.0 - 5.0

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2015, 05:56:34 pm »
Dr. Larry Lipshultz, last I checked, was still recommending 500IU 3x per week along with testosterone.  That's the highest I've seen from any doctor specializing in HRT, but that is certainly higher than most would recommend.


But it also depends on the Test dose,right ,Hydranted?  In my opinion it is not the same to have ,let's say 70 mgs of test weekly than 100 mgs in this last one , maybe 1500 iu weekly could be a lot or I'm wrong ?


Yes for most men on TRT, 1500IU of hCG is a very hefty weekly dose.  It's unnecessary to take that much unless the user doesn't respond to lower doses for one reason or another.  It would be extremely rare for that much hCG to be needed. 

HCG aromatizes into estradiol, and some guys are very sensitive to this type of aromatization.  Men have reported over aromatization from very small/reasonable doses of hCG, so taking 1500IU definitely has the potential to create problems.

To answer your question, yes, a lower dose of testosterone would theoretically be "better" if high doses of hCG are used.  If there's already significant aromatization from the hCG, there will still be the aromatization from the testosterone to take into account.

Most doctors don't use that approach for typical HRT though.  If hCG is causing too much aromatization they usually just lower the dose of hCG, not the testosterone.



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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2015, 06:36:11 pm »
I'm on 1000 IU HCG per week, 500 IU twice weekly.

My estradiol was 30 at last draw. I'm thinking maybe I should lower my HCG dose to about 400 IU twice weekly, or split it up into 3 weekly shots of 250-300 IU each. That might nick a few points off my estradiol...
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2015, 09:17:39 pm »
I think 1000 weekly is something I'm going to try. I'll post results

Thanks
54 years

HRT  protocol

62 mgs of Sustenon weekly one IM shot
600 IU HGC  weekly divided in two SQ shots
6 click of  HGH daily
1 ml of Progesteron cream daily
Half pill of Arimidex once a week

Last lab tests

Progesterone,
1.50 ng/mL                                       0.21 - 1.54

Estradiol,
26 pg/mL                                              5 - 66

Testosterone Total

* 989.5 ng/dL                               142.0 - 923.0    ;D

Testosterone Libre (free)

 * 31.0 ng/dL                                     4.0 - 30.0      ;D

Testosterone Biodisponible

* 645.0 ng/dL                                        98.0 - 590.0

Sex Hormone Binding Globulin

 23.4 nmol/L                                              11.2 - 78.1

Alb˙min

 3.8 g/dL                                                  3.0 - 5.0

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2015, 09:37:22 pm »
I think 1000 weekly is something I'm going to try. I'll post results

Thanks

Hey, one thing you may not be thinking about is that there is a reason to go lower with HCG:  it tends to fire up estradiol more proportionately.  So the higher you go may seem like a good thing, but the extra estradiol may not agree with you.
THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE BOOK ON TRT/TESTOSTERONE:
https://www.amazon.com/Natural-Versus-Testosterone-Therapy-Myer/dp/1523210532/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1499116128&sr=8-1&keywords=natural+versus+testosterone+therapy
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2015, 09:37:22 pm »