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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2015, 10:03:45 pm »
Another guinea pig here. My current protocol is 24 mg T enanthate eod, 100 IU hCG ed, and 0.1 mg anastrozole eod. I've only been on this a week, but so far, so good. I will report numbers in a few weeks. I switched to enanthate to get sesame oil as carrier; I had some injection site reactions with cypionate, which may have been caused by the cottonseed oil.
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
Age: 60, Ht: 5'10", Wt: 154 lbs
Protocol: 3.2 mg TE subQ qd, 2.4 mg TP subQ qd, 20 mcg GnRH subQ 5.25x/d, 6.25 mg DHEA bid, 12.5 mg enclomiphene qod
Approximate levels (peak): TT: 700 ng/dL, E2: 30 pg/mL, DHEA-S: 300 ug/dL, SHBG: 30 nMol/L

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2015, 10:07:16 pm »
Another guinea pig here. My current protocol is 24 mg T enanthate eod, 100 IU hCG ed, and 0.1 mg anastrozole eod. I've only been on this a week, but so far, so good. I will report numbers in a few weeks. I switched to enanthate to get sesame oil as carrier; I had some injection site reactions with cypionate, which may have been caused by the cottonseed oil.

Is it pretty easy to get enanthate over here?
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2015, 10:14:20 pm »
Is it pretty easy to get enanthate over here?

Yes, I went that route because Sam's Club pharmacy had it in stock. Insurance price was still only $8, out-of-pocket would had been $65 for the 5 ml bottle (200 mg/ml).
I am not a medical doctor; any suggestions are meant to be discussed with your doctor.
Age: 60, Ht: 5'10", Wt: 154 lbs
Protocol: 3.2 mg TE subQ qd, 2.4 mg TP subQ qd, 20 mcg GnRH subQ 5.25x/d, 6.25 mg DHEA bid, 12.5 mg enclomiphene qod
Approximate levels (peak): TT: 700 ng/dL, E2: 30 pg/mL, DHEA-S: 300 ug/dL, SHBG: 30 nMol/L

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2015, 12:57:39 pm »
I have been on 75 mgs weekly of Sustenon, and around 1050 HCG units (weekly also) for two months. Arimidex half tablet a week.

I will have blood tests this coming Saturday. I'll post results.
54 years

HRT  protocol

62 mgs of Sustenon weekly one IM shot
600 IU HGC  weekly divided in two SQ shots
6 click of  HGH daily
1 ml of Progesteron cream daily
Half pill of Arimidex once a week

Last lab tests

Progesterone,
1.50 ng/mL                                       0.21 - 1.54

Estradiol,
26 pg/mL                                              5 - 66

Testosterone Total

* 989.5 ng/dL                               142.0 - 923.0    ;D

Testosterone Libre (free)

 * 31.0 ng/dL                                     4.0 - 30.0      ;D

Testosterone Biodisponible

* 645.0 ng/dL                                        98.0 - 590.0

Sex Hormone Binding Globulin

 23.4 nmol/L                                              11.2 - 78.1

Alb˙min

 3.8 g/dL                                                  3.0 - 5.0

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2015, 04:00:42 pm »
I have been on 75 mgs weekly of Sustenon, and around 1050 HCG units (weekly also) for two months. Arimidex half tablet a week.

I will have blood tests this coming Saturday. I'll post results.

Sounds good.
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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #35 on: August 16, 2015, 03:23:28 pm »
Crisler has me on 150 iu per day.  If I miss days here and there, no big deal.

Are you on TRT?
Yup, current protocol is 50 mg twice a week sq and 150 iu of hcg daily.  Just transitioned to this new protocol about a month ago.  I need to get new bloodwork done as I think I need to bump my t cyp up a bit based on how I am feeling.

Hi Bear:

I recall Dr. Crisler's previous protocol for TRT patients supplementing with HCG was adding up to 500I.U. per week on top of the TRT regimen.

It sounds like he has modified/relaxed this threshold- are you aware if he is proposing a new weekly maximum with other patients as well?

Anyone aware if he has articulated a new weekly upper limit?

 

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #36 on: August 19, 2015, 07:41:37 am »
Good Evening!

Well, I shall post my basic total HRT protocol, just to add a different viewpoint:

I have 8 to 10 SottoPelle testosterone pellets and 1 DHEA pellet inserted every six months,

300 IU hCG sub-Q Monday through Friday; cumulative 1,500 IU per week.

.05 mg Letrozole sub-lingual Monday night.

Results are serum T approx 1050 to 1100 ng/dl, E2 about 16 to 20, other numbers mentioned in my
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This protocol works WONDERFULLY, my companion and I are very happy.

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Age: 65 Weight: 153 pounds Height: 5ft 10 inch
Total HRT program: SottoPelle Testosterone Pellets every 6 months, 300 IU hCG sub-q M-F, .05 mg letrozole once weekly.

14 May 2015 blood work: Serum T: 1,264 ng/dL (one month since LAST pellet insert procedure);
                            Free Testosterone: 21.7 pg/mL
                            Estradiol (ultrasensitive): 17.4 pg/mL
                            PSA (Roche ECLIA): 3.1 ng/mL  (March 2014 = 2.6 ng/mL)
                            D3: 77 ng/dL
                            Prolactin: 7.0 ng/mL
                            Cortisol: 6.9 mcg/mL (down from 12.8 one year ago)

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
« Reply #37 on: August 19, 2015, 02:28:27 pm »
My doctor has some of his patients on 5000IU once a week. I don't really see the point of going so high because it's just going to put their estradiol through the roof, and then they'll need to take anastrozole. When I was on TRT I took 500IU three times a week.

My view is that it's best to start as low as possible, then titrate up if needed.
I am not medically trained or qualified. This is not medical advice.

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Re: What is the highest dose you have seen of HCG with testosterone?
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