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Are you currently using DHEA, Pregnenalone, both or none of the above?

I am currently using DHEA.
15 (42.9%)
I am currently using pregnenalone
7 (20%)
I am currently using both DHEA and pregnenalone
3 (8.6%)
I am currently not using either DHEA or pregnenalone.
10 (28.6%)

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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2015, 04:02:07 pm »
Anyone else?
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2015, 11:19:32 pm »
I voted for just Pregnenolone use. 

I have hashimoto's and low testosterone like many others on this board.  I'm on 125mcg Levoxyl, 4mg Slow Release compounded T3, 60mg T-Cypionate E3.5days, 500IU hCG 3x week & .25mg Arimidex within 24 hours of each test shot.  Stats:  39yo, 6'0", 210lbs.  Somewhere around 15-17% body fat.  I like to lift weights.  I feel really good lately.  Everything is working properly finally after a year.

I've been lurking for a little while and reading up on everything for the past year and this forum and the two other big ones have been very educational.

My endo (Dr. Arem if anyone's heard of him) gave me an ATCH stim test and diagnosed me with borderline adrenal insufficiency.  I then had blood work done from LabCorp and my Pregnenolone was 16 ng/dL with the range being <151.  I showed that lab to my endo and I said it seems low but I have absolutely no basis for that opinion.  I asked about supplementing it but didn't really know if it would make a difference (which is also the majority opinion on the internet).  He suggested I keep it clean and not use it because no one really knows about long term side effects. 

I ended up starting 50mg tablet every night with my other vitamins about 3 months ago.  I've since had a 4 tube saliva cortisol test and a blood progesterone test.  Cortisol was at the top for all 4 time periods and Progesterone came back in the upper 1/4 of the range.  I can't say I've noticed any side effects or benefits and I can't prove it's actually doing anything.  There's at least 5 possibilities or some combination of these:

1.  ATCH stim test was wrong.
2.  Cortisol saliva test was wrong.
3.  Pregenenolone is actually working.
4.  My hCG I was on was stale at the time of the ATCH stim test. 
5.  My diet is more plant and fish based (lots of salads and salmon now) and I've been a bit more aggressive working out since I've recovered from my snowboarding injury this past winter.

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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2015, 05:18:30 am »
My two cents:  pregnenalone works best on the brain and guys feel better often mentally.  And sometimes will raise hormones.  But it seems very unpredictable as far as what it will do in the case of the latter. 
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2015, 11:19:32 pm »
Will be starting a DHEA and Pregnenalone regimen tomorrow. 25mg of each, will report back.

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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2015, 03:48:11 am »
Will be starting a DHEA and Pregnenalone regimen tomorrow. 25mg of each, will report back.

Remember to measure yourself first and make sure you are low if you haven't.
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2015, 03:31:17 pm »
Back up to 50 mg of DHEA a day. Oral kind instead of sublingual and feel great!
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2015, 06:27:45 pm »
Back up to 50 mg of DHEA a day. Oral kind instead of sublingual and feel great!

Nice.  So let me guess:  anxiety levels are done and you feel more peaceful?
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2015, 06:44:22 pm »
Back up to 50 mg of DHEA a day. Oral kind instead of sublingual and feel great!

Nice.  So let me guess:  anxiety levels are done and you feel more peaceful?

Yes. Anxiety has dropped. Libido is back up. Erectile function back up. I feel quite a bit like I did when I first started the HCG/DHEA combo. Except now I'm just on the DHEA
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2015, 08:28:33 pm »

Yes. Anxiety has dropped. Libido is back up. Erectile function back up. I feel quite a bit like I did when I first started the HCG/DHEA combo. Except now I'm just on the DHEA

Yeah, I'm feeling very good myself.  Now imo you should keep the 50 mg going for a bit and then taper back to 25 mg and see if that will work for you, i.e. play around with dosage.  I'm double your age and doing good with 25 mg for example.
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2015, 03:50:25 pm »

Yes. Anxiety has dropped. Libido is back up. Erectile function back up. I feel quite a bit like I did when I first started the HCG/DHEA combo. Except now I'm just on the DHEA

Yeah, I'm feeling very good myself.  Now imo you should keep the 50 mg going for a bit and then taper back to 25 mg and see if that will work for you, i.e. play around with dosage.  I'm double your age and doing good with 25 mg for example.

I've done that already. Barely budged my DHEA levels and I felt like garbage. 25 mg only got my levels up around 220
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2015, 05:45:11 pm »

Yes. Anxiety has dropped. Libido is back up. Erectile function back up. I feel quite a bit like I did when I first started the HCG/DHEA combo. Except now I'm just on the DHEA

Yeah, I'm feeling very good myself.  Now imo you should keep the 50 mg going for a bit and then taper back to 25 mg and see if that will work for you, i.e. play around with dosage.  I'm double your age and doing good with 25 mg for example.

I've done that already. Barely budged my DHEA levels and I felt like garbage. 25 mg only got my levels up around 220

Understood.  LEF says 15-50 will do usually it and you are obviously on the upper end.. 
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2015, 08:09:42 pm »
Im up on 25mg sublingual every morning since a couple of days and feel a slight improvement but to early to tell if its dhea or not but no side effects at least.

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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2015, 08:12:36 pm »
Im up on 25mg sublingual every morning since a couple of days and feel a slight improvement but to early to tell if its dhea or not but no side effects at least.

Better to start on the low side if you ask me...
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2015, 07:41:34 am »
Bump...
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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2015, 09:22:25 pm »
Thrid week on pregnenolone.  Started at 500mg daily, mixed in some olive oil, (Came to that dose per my reading and feedback on Ray Peat Forum, and as I've said, I'm a mad scientist!).  It definitely broke my long standing depression after three weeks.  Also has raised my libido but only slight improvement in erectile function.  My wife and I were making out.(A perfectly good term, lol)and I did get a good, strong erection but I didn't make it to the finals...sigh.  We had a good time and I still left her with a smile on her face.  No further comments. 8)

I was thinking about adding transdermal DHEA, 10 to 20mg in order to avoid excessive E2 conversion, which happened when I did 25mg oral a couple of years ago.  But DHEA, as I've previously written, had a most positive effect on libido and erectile function, as well as mood.
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Complex medical history: treatment resistant ultra rapid cycling bipolar illness, history of thyroid and adrenal problems. ED/libido problems since 2010.  Restoring my physical health has been, and remains, a daunting challenge.

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Re: POLL: DHEA and Pregnenalone Use
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