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Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« on: July 29, 2015, 07:12:59 pm »
Of all the bloodwork I had done when I first saw a specialist about my ED, my ultrasensitive CRP test seemed to give the most heartening results.  The test is measured on a scale of 0-10, with normal range being between 1 and 3.  The higher the number, the more CRP is in your blood, and this is supposed to be a rough measure of inflammation (and by extension heart disease, endothelial damage, and the test of the things that go with inflammation.

My score was a 0.92, which puts me in the "safe" zone.

Sounds great, and makes me feel a bit better about how much endothelial damage I might actually have.  I want to have other tests done to look and calcium scoring on my heart, etc.  But for now I'm wondering how the heck my level was so low.  Everything I read about how to lower your CRP looks like stuff I ignored for years other than maybe three weeks before I had the test done.

Can three weeks of cutting out processed fatty foods and walking every day lower CRP into the "safe" zone?

Does a low CRP test really signify anything of import WRT ED?
43 years old
5'7", was 220 pounds when trouble started, now down to 165
Trouble began with abrupt ED Early May '15
Initial T level 130
Started Clomid in hopes of rebooting system June '15
Currently taking 25 mg eod and .25 mg Arimidex every 4 days
T level 480 or so at last reading
ED in check with 2.5 mg Cialis eod and supplements:
POM juice, L-Cit, Pycnogenol

Morning anxiety currently in check with GABA taken every night

Biggest current worry is heart health:
Aortic stenosis (very mild for now)
CAC score 156(!) at age 42
Lp(a) is a shockingly bad 390 nmol/L -- TRIPLE the "extremely high risk" level!
Homozygous for the bad "G" variant of SNP rs10455872, which increases Lp(a) as well as odds for aortic stenosis and coronary artery lesions. 
I think I know what trashed my heart...

40 mg Crestor and baby aspirin every day
CoQ-10, Vitamin K2, and Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract every day too
Walking 10,000 steps a day

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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2015, 08:27:26 pm »
I had the CRP in May but I don't think it was the ultrasensitive.   The range is the same as yours though, 1-3 being normal, with below 1 indicating below normal cardiac risk.    My score was below 0.10.

I think a basic anti-inflammatory plant-based diet and healthy fats helps to reduce the score - I would say your lifestyle changes most likely helped.   

As for the relationship with ED - I have no idea.    I would also like to know the difference between the regular CRP and ultrasensitive CRP.   

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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2015, 08:52:04 pm »
Of all the bloodwork I had done when I first saw a specialist about my ED, my ultrasensitive CRP test seemed to give the most heartening results.  The test is measured on a scale of 0-10, with normal range being between 1 and 3.  The higher the number, the more CRP is in your blood, and this is supposed to be a rough measure of inflammation (and by extension heart disease, endothelial damage, and the test of the things that go with inflammation.

My score was a 0.92, which puts me in the "safe" zone.

Sounds great, and makes me feel a bit better about how much endothelial damage I might actually have.  I want to have other tests done to look and calcium scoring on my heart, etc.  But for now I'm wondering how the heck my level was so low.  Everything I read about how to lower your CRP looks like stuff I ignored for years other than maybe three weeks before I had the test done.

Can three weeks of cutting out processed fatty foods and walking every day lower CRP into the "safe" zone?

Does a low CRP test really signify anything of import WRT ED?

Yeah, that's great.  One thing to chalk off the worry list. 

And yes I would think 3 weeks of deep dietary would do it.  Young guys tend to have lower #s of course.

It's a general measure of "systemic inflammation" and it's been tied to a host of chronic disease including arterial.  So, yes, that's a great sign.  It's just one of many markers though as Dr. Davis' book carefully details.
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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2015, 09:46:51 pm »
Hm, the answer I was HOPING for was that there was no way that three weeks of "clean living" would be enough to appreciably lower CRP, so I must have less endothelial damage than my other tests would suggest. 

Will have to ask my doc what he thinks.
43 years old
5'7", was 220 pounds when trouble started, now down to 165
Trouble began with abrupt ED Early May '15
Initial T level 130
Started Clomid in hopes of rebooting system June '15
Currently taking 25 mg eod and .25 mg Arimidex every 4 days
T level 480 or so at last reading
ED in check with 2.5 mg Cialis eod and supplements:
POM juice, L-Cit, Pycnogenol

Morning anxiety currently in check with GABA taken every night

Biggest current worry is heart health:
Aortic stenosis (very mild for now)
CAC score 156(!) at age 42
Lp(a) is a shockingly bad 390 nmol/L -- TRIPLE the "extremely high risk" level!
Homozygous for the bad "G" variant of SNP rs10455872, which increases Lp(a) as well as odds for aortic stenosis and coronary artery lesions. 
I think I know what trashed my heart...

40 mg Crestor and baby aspirin every day
CoQ-10, Vitamin K2, and Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract every day too
Walking 10,000 steps a day

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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2015, 11:22:40 pm »
Hm, the answer I was HOPING for was that there was no way that three weeks of "clean living" would be enough to appreciably lower CRP, so I must have less endothelial damage than my other tests would suggest. 

Will have to ask my doc what he thinks.

The best way to get a handle on endothelial function is not through CRP - and again kudos for a good number - but through testing for plaque (IMT or Heart Scan) or directly via an EndoPAT.  Good blood pressure readings and morning erections are dependent on good endothelial function as well, so if you're doing good in those categories, then that's a very good sign. 
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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2015, 02:49:31 am »
BP at its worst was prehypertension, about 135/85.  Readings are pretty consistently 120/80 now.

Morning erections had been missing for some time before the problem began, but then I wasn't looking for them so can't be sure.  They definitely returned for the first week and a half into Clomid - once I had a nice big one that lingered for a bit and interfered with urination - but then disappeared again. 

Lately I occasionally notice some slight tumescence when I wake up, and that's about it - although I was JUST dozing off and woke with what might well have been a fair one in my pants, at least enough to let me know something was going on down there.  Then again I took 10 mg of Cialis last night and I hear that can give you morning wood as well.

Since my T did hit 130 at one point, a level at which even the conservative medical community seems to agree is not conducive to erection, I still have hope that a pronged rise in T level might revive functionality.
43 years old
5'7", was 220 pounds when trouble started, now down to 165
Trouble began with abrupt ED Early May '15
Initial T level 130
Started Clomid in hopes of rebooting system June '15
Currently taking 25 mg eod and .25 mg Arimidex every 4 days
T level 480 or so at last reading
ED in check with 2.5 mg Cialis eod and supplements:
POM juice, L-Cit, Pycnogenol

Morning anxiety currently in check with GABA taken every night

Biggest current worry is heart health:
Aortic stenosis (very mild for now)
CAC score 156(!) at age 42
Lp(a) is a shockingly bad 390 nmol/L -- TRIPLE the "extremely high risk" level!
Homozygous for the bad "G" variant of SNP rs10455872, which increases Lp(a) as well as odds for aortic stenosis and coronary artery lesions. 
I think I know what trashed my heart...

40 mg Crestor and baby aspirin every day
CoQ-10, Vitamin K2, and Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract every day too
Walking 10,000 steps a day

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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2015, 06:22:07 am »
BP at its worst was prehypertension, about 135/85.  Readings are pretty consistently 120/80 now.

Morning erections had been missing for some time before the problem began, but then I wasn't looking for them so can't be sure.  They definitely returned for the first week and a half into Clomid - once I had a nice big one that lingered for a bit and interfered with urination - but then disappeared again. 

Lately I occasionally notice some slight tumescence when I wake up, and that's about it - although I was JUST dozing off and woke with what might well have been a fair one in my pants, at least enough to let me know something was going on down there.  Then again I took 10 mg of Cialis last night and I hear that can give you morning wood as well.

Since my T did hit 130 at one point, a level at which even the conservative medical community seems to agree is not conducive to erection, I still have hope that a pronged rise in T level might revive functionality.

Got it.  Well, if your testosterone is that low, then that is likely your problem.   It's good to look at other possible causes as well:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/morning_erections

10 mg is way too much imo.  Very easy to get sides, dependency and resistance at overly high dosages:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Viagra_Resistance

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Cialis_Dependency
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If you are on medications or have a medical condition, always check with your doctor first before making any lifestyle changes or taking new supplements.  And low testosterone is a medical condition.

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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2015, 10:30:11 pm »
I took 10 mg by taking two of the 5 mg one a day pills, as I was attempting to cycle them (2 one night, none the next) to see if that had any positive effect.  Not sure if it did, though I did get some slight tinnitus.

Didn't take them last night or the night before.  Trying to see what things are like without them.
43 years old
5'7", was 220 pounds when trouble started, now down to 165
Trouble began with abrupt ED Early May '15
Initial T level 130
Started Clomid in hopes of rebooting system June '15
Currently taking 25 mg eod and .25 mg Arimidex every 4 days
T level 480 or so at last reading
ED in check with 2.5 mg Cialis eod and supplements:
POM juice, L-Cit, Pycnogenol

Morning anxiety currently in check with GABA taken every night

Biggest current worry is heart health:
Aortic stenosis (very mild for now)
CAC score 156(!) at age 42
Lp(a) is a shockingly bad 390 nmol/L -- TRIPLE the "extremely high risk" level!
Homozygous for the bad "G" variant of SNP rs10455872, which increases Lp(a) as well as odds for aortic stenosis and coronary artery lesions. 
I think I know what trashed my heart...

40 mg Crestor and baby aspirin every day
CoQ-10, Vitamin K2, and Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract every day too
Walking 10,000 steps a day

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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2015, 10:38:29 pm »
I took 10 mg by taking two of the 5 mg one a day pills, as I was attempting to cycle them (2 one night, none the next) to see if that had any positive effect.  Not sure if it did, though I did get some slight tinnitus.

Didn't take them last night or the night before.  Trying to see what things are like without them.

Probably better to taper back.  Have you seen the How I Quit Cialis thread?
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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2015, 01:16:58 am »
I've seen that thread and the guy doesn't look like he has the functionality I'm looking for.  Understand that until three months ago I had 100% reliable erections that lasted until I was ready to orgasm 100% of the time.

Not having much luck getting erections two nights into stopping Cialis I'm afraid.
43 years old
5'7", was 220 pounds when trouble started, now down to 165
Trouble began with abrupt ED Early May '15
Initial T level 130
Started Clomid in hopes of rebooting system June '15
Currently taking 25 mg eod and .25 mg Arimidex every 4 days
T level 480 or so at last reading
ED in check with 2.5 mg Cialis eod and supplements:
POM juice, L-Cit, Pycnogenol

Morning anxiety currently in check with GABA taken every night

Biggest current worry is heart health:
Aortic stenosis (very mild for now)
CAC score 156(!) at age 42
Lp(a) is a shockingly bad 390 nmol/L -- TRIPLE the "extremely high risk" level!
Homozygous for the bad "G" variant of SNP rs10455872, which increases Lp(a) as well as odds for aortic stenosis and coronary artery lesions. 
I think I know what trashed my heart...

40 mg Crestor and baby aspirin every day
CoQ-10, Vitamin K2, and Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract every day too
Walking 10,000 steps a day

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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2015, 07:48:24 pm »
I've seen that thread and the guy doesn't look like he has the functionality I'm looking for.  Understand that until three months ago I had 100% reliable erections that lasted until I was ready to orgasm 100% of the time.

Not having much luck getting erections two nights into stopping Cialis I'm afraid.

Let's say it's hormonal and, since you are young, that is fairly likely.  Well, you may be able to find a hormonal solution that will get you right back in the game as I think you are implying.  The problem, though, is that without the lifestyle interventions you'll end up in a few years likely back in the same place due to arterial, gut, or neurotranmitter issues.  Again, I don't know your situation, but you have to marry lifestyle with hormones for long term success.
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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2015, 01:44:31 pm »
I hear you loud and clear about the importance of lifestyle modifications.  Believe me, I have already taken a lot of that to heart - had done so before even finding this site.  I've lost 40 pounds (so far) and have 20 to go before no longer being overweight (I've already gotten out of obesity).  My cholesterol is MUCH better than it was, and might even be "safe" now (I get tested next week).  BP is well down, just out of prehypertension range.  And I have pretty much sworn off soda, processed food, fast food, etc.  I eat many more servings of vegetables than I used to.  I'm a changed man.

I just feel like Scrooge after meeting the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come.  Why show me these things if there's nothing I can do to change them?  I'm being dramatic, but I'm on Clomid.

I hope that sorting out my hormones gets me my erections back.  Right now it seems like my only hope.  But yes, I absolutely understand the need to look forward and take care of my body if I don't want to end up right back here again someday.  Assuming I am able to get a second chance.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2015, 02:11:22 pm by Nocturne »
43 years old
5'7", was 220 pounds when trouble started, now down to 165
Trouble began with abrupt ED Early May '15
Initial T level 130
Started Clomid in hopes of rebooting system June '15
Currently taking 25 mg eod and .25 mg Arimidex every 4 days
T level 480 or so at last reading
ED in check with 2.5 mg Cialis eod and supplements:
POM juice, L-Cit, Pycnogenol

Morning anxiety currently in check with GABA taken every night

Biggest current worry is heart health:
Aortic stenosis (very mild for now)
CAC score 156(!) at age 42
Lp(a) is a shockingly bad 390 nmol/L -- TRIPLE the "extremely high risk" level!
Homozygous for the bad "G" variant of SNP rs10455872, which increases Lp(a) as well as odds for aortic stenosis and coronary artery lesions. 
I think I know what trashed my heart...

40 mg Crestor and baby aspirin every day
CoQ-10, Vitamin K2, and Kyolic Aged Garlic Extract every day too
Walking 10,000 steps a day

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Re: Great CRP (C-Reactive Protein) test results - how?
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2015, 01:44:31 pm »