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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2016, 06:51:39 pm »
I split out the question about injecting subQ into the gluts here:

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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2016, 07:31:15 pm »
With so many different forms of choline , will Lecithin work as well?

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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2016, 07:58:00 pm »
With so many different forms of choline , will Lecithin work as well?

http://www.raysahelian.com/phospha.html

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Phosphatidylcholine is sold in the form of liquid, capsules, or granules. The amount in each product varies between different brands. The lecithin you buy in a health food store will generally include about 10 to 70 percent phosphatidylcholine, along with other lipids. Different types of lecithin will differ in their lipid compositions depending on the source of the lecithin soy or egg yolk or the extraction process. One product contains 1,200 mg of phosphatidylcholine in each capsule along with small amounts of other phospholipids."

Keep in mind this that there are some potential risks with PC itself but more work needs to be done to clarify a # of questions:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Phosphatidylcholine_Dangers

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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2016, 08:02:15 pm »
I have tried Phosphatidylcholine instead of Doctors Best Brain Enhancers with Panethine, and yes it works just as good for erections.
But I only used on days I knew I was having sex.

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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2016, 08:02:15 pm »


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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2016, 02:31:40 pm »
I posted this info on "The Marriage Bed" website. Here's the only response I got. I don't know enough about this to respond.



"Some of the information on those sites can be pretty misleading, or even ignorrant.

ACh is probably the most common neurotransmitter in the human body. Certainly, it is involved in sexual functions, but it is part of just about every other bodily function. It is quite literally involved at every level, both neuron to neuron, or neuron to muscle cell. I think it would be unlikely to find anyone who is deficient in any way, that still had muscle control to walk, sign their name, etc.

I would be very cautious in trying to alter anything in the CNS. Simple fact of the matter is that enough is just right, and more than enough can create issues. If you can walk, chew gum, etc, then you already have the right amount of ACh.

This is not one of those "more is better" things."

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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2016, 04:05:24 pm »
I posted this info on "The Marriage Bed" website. Here's the only response I got. I don't know enough about this to respond.



"Some of the information on those sites can be pretty misleading, or even ignorrant.

ACh is probably the most common neurotransmitter in the human body. Certainly, it is involved in sexual functions, but it is part of just about every other bodily function. It is quite literally involved at every level, both neuron to neuron, or neuron to muscle cell. I think it would be unlikely to find anyone who is deficient in any way, that still had muscle control to walk, sign their name, etc.

I would be very cautious in trying to alter anything in the CNS. Simple fact of the matter is that enough is just right, and more than enough can create issues. If you can walk, chew gum, etc, then you already have the right amount of ACh.

This is not one of those "more is better" things."

I agree with being cautious.  However, my understanding is that acetylcholine decrease in aging:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-4159.1981.tb04484.x/abstract

"Acetylcholine (ACh) synthesis in vivo is known to decrease during the aging process (senescence). To elucidate the molecular mechanism(s) of this age-related decline, we studied brain slices from 3-, 10-, and 30-month-old mice of two strains (C57B1 and Balb/c). In low K+ media, oxidative metabolism as measured by 14CO2 production decreased with aging from 100% (3 months) to 85% (10 months) or 71% (30 months) whether [U−14C]glucose, [3,4-14C]glucose, or [l-14C]pyruvate was the substrate. In the aged brain (3 months) the increase in 14CO2 production with K+ stimulation was about twofold higher than in the young brain (3 months). Thus, in high K+ media, only slight decreases (<10%) in oxidative metabolism occurred with aging. Changes in ACh synthesis paralleled the decreases in 14CO2 production. Synthesis of [14C]ACh from [U-14C]glucose in low K+ media declined from 100% (3 months) to 85% (10 months) or 66% (30 months), while in high K+ media only slight decreases (<10.5%) occurred with aging. The Ca2+-dependent, K+-stimulated release of [14C]ACh declined from 100% (3 months) to 58% (10 months) or 25% (30 months). Only the decrease in the release of ACh declined to the same extent as the reduced in vivo synthesis of ACh with aging. The results suggest that decreases in oxidative metabolism, ACh synthesis, and in the release of ACh contribute to a reduction in cholinergic function in the senescent brain."

There are many other animal studies verifying the same thing.

So, yes, you have to be really cautious with the CNS.  But Ach declines with aging and keep in mind that JustAskin is in his 60's.  (JustAskin can verify but I think I'm right!)

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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2016, 02:48:00 pm »
Has anyone tried this? I'd like to know if it works or not. What possible bad side effects could this formula produce?

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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2016, 05:47:47 pm »
Doesn't APS or Empower pharmacy sell a troche dopamine drug. Would this work as well without having to take so many different items?

Also isn't there a drug call Vasoril or Vigimed that does the same thing?

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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2016, 07:11:09 pm »
I split out roadglide's question about apomorphine:

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/forum/index.php?topic=9705.msg84868#msg84868
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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2016, 08:58:58 pm »
So what is the percentage of guys that will benefit from this stack? It's not very common or discussed much. I plan on trying it.

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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2016, 10:59:23 pm »
So what is the percentage of guys that will benefit from this stack? It's not very common or discussed much. I plan on trying it.

My guess is that it will help men that are 45+ the most.  He's targetting acetylcholine, dopamine and endothelial function, all of which decay pretty significantly with age.  Oh and Mao-B rises with age.  Some Mao-B inhibitors have the "cheese effect", i.e. you should take them with tryamine foods.  JustAskin - what does the supplement manufacturer say about this?
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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2016, 01:02:17 am »
So what is the percentage of guys that will benefit from this stack? It's not very common or discussed much. I plan on trying it.

My guess is that it will help men that are 45+ the most.  He's targetting acetylcholine, dopamine and endothelial function, all of which decay pretty significantly with age.  Oh and Mao-B rises with age.  Some Mao-B inhibitors have the "cheese effect", i.e. you should take them with tryamine foods.  JustAskin - what does the supplement manufacturer say about this?

Thanks Peak, I know 45 was mentioned earlier.  I'll give it a shot.

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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2016, 01:11:19 am »
JustAskin or anyone,

Is this something you take daily or just when needed for sexual activity?

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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2016, 01:34:46 am »
Ok, I purchased all of these supplements. Should I start with one in particular and add the others slowly or try to take all of them? I'd rather err on the side of caution.

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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2016, 04:43:12 am »
Ok, I purchased all of these supplements. Should I start with one in particular and add the others slowly or try to take all of them? I'd rather err on the side of caution.

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Imo always roll in supplements one at a time and give each one at least 3 weeks.   
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Re: JustAskin's Erection Formula: DopaBean, Pantethine and More
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2016, 04:43:12 am »